Far Cry HD Release Outed in Brazil

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Considering the feature I put up earlier, my love for Far Cry is clear for all to see. So imagine my excitement when I read today that a Brazilian ratings board shows a listing for Far Cry HD for both 360 and PS3.  

The listing was posted a while back in November and its not had any official announcement, but that wont stop me being excited at the prospect. The original Crysis plays and looks good on 360, so I would imagine that a suped up version of Far Cry (originally released in 2004 on PC) would kick ass!

A Tale of Two Worlds & How I Learned to Skin with Love

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Both Far Cry 3 and Crysis 3 share a common heritage. Now, I would imagine most of the hardcore out there would be aware that Crytek created both the Far Cry franchise and the Crysis one. Far Cry was their baby and released in 2004 for critical acclaim and I for one loved every second of it, invisible killer apes included! Crytek left Far Cry behind after the first instalment and went off to develop Crysis while Ubisoft took over the license for Far Cry. I can assure you there were various legal issues but really, that’s all you need to know.

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Born2beSlicker
Thu 23rd May 2013
*bump* A tale of two worlds: How I learned to skin with love Hallben talks about his love for open world games like Far Cry 3 and Crysis 3.
Manic Street Preacher
Tue 22nd Jan 2013
I got this game over Christmas and it took me a while to get into it but it's f*cking awesome! Best game released in 2012 I think.
Jerec
Tue 22nd Jan 2013
I got this game free when I got my new laptop, its really cool, loving the hunting missions, shame Direct 11 keeps giving me the black boxes bug!
DragonBugg
Tue 22nd Jan 2013
Fuck yes! They have a page for FC3 now!
DragonBugg
Thu 17th Jan 2013
Is anyone here playing this on PC but me? And is anyone else interested in mods for this? Mods are the sole reason I got this for PC... The community took off with FC2, so I'm hoping they do with this as well, since I like this way more than 2.
Mr C
Thu 17th Jan 2013
Danger Moss
poundhound
My biggest gripe is the foul-mouthed Glaswegian charachter in co-op. Why!!? So totally over the top and crude. I cringed at every cut scene.
Callum is awesome!
I second that. He may be somewhat of a stereotype but his comments are hilarious
Danger Moss
Wed 16th Jan 2013
poundhound
My biggest gripe is the foul-mouthed Glaswegian charachter in co-op. Why!!? So totally over the top and crude. I cringed at every cut scene.
Callum is awesome!
poundhound
Wed 16th Jan 2013
Finished this, both single player and co-op. Loved the single player game. Co-op was decent. My biggest gripe is the foul-mouthed Glaswegian charachter in co-op. Why!!? So totally over the top and crude. I cringed at every cut scene. I liked how the single player story was silly and unbelievable. More like the very first Far Cry, where you were some sort of mutant (my memory is a little hazy). I prefer that to the "realism" of Far Cry 2, which I could not get on with at all. I've got no complaints at all about the single player. Up there with the best games of the last few years for me.
Born2beSlicker
Wed 16th Jan 2013
I really do t know now that I think about it. I must have had a brain fart, as I was thinking of two separate points in the previous post and melded them together. :?
Danger Moss
Wed 16th Jan 2013
Ok. Well its at about that point the story began to spiral into complete stupidity for me and I really didn't care if any of Jason's friends lived, died or got rogered up the bum by a bearded Australian with a ridiculous tattoo anyway so the whole rape thing was lost on me a bit. Its a shame with stronger writing this would have been hands down my GOTY. How the fuck could you get Vass and Buck mixed up though?
Born2beSlicker
Wed 16th Jan 2013
I apologise, I mixed up my characters. I meant to talk about Buck, who is alluded to rape Keith and use him as a sex slave. For such a dark context, it's thrown away so trivially. Kill Screen writes a good piece about it.
Danger Moss
Wed 16th Jan 2013
Born2beSlicker
I only have a few issues with the game, the big one being the main villain (who's name I forget). Although he's well acted and genuinely intimidating in cutscenes, the fact that they make him that bit more psychotic by being a rapist to both men and women is presented immaturely.
You mean Vass. He's not the main villain. Wait! What?! :?
Born2beSlicker
Wed 16th Jan 2013
Got this for my birthday and it's a very enjoyable game. Great graphics, mission design, gun mechanics and exploration. The mixture of wildlife and pirates brings some unique battles that wouldn't exist in other shooters, for this Ubisoft should be highly commended. The writing isn't great but the voice acting is very good, accompanied with impressive use of the first person perspective it helps you really sink into the game's world. I only have a few issues with the game, the big one being the main villain (who's name I forget). Although he's well acted and genuinely intimidating in cutscenes, the fact that they make him that bit more psychotic by being a rapist to both men and women is presented immaturely. They could have handled him a bit better to make aspects of his character darker rather than cartoonish. Also there's far, far too much information on screen. Everything you do (especially at the start) sparks a pop up which leads to the journal with more reading. Then there's all the button prompts and icons and waypoints that essentially lead you through the missions which makes little sense seeing as it's an open world sandbox game with many elements to make your own style of gameplay. It's clear Ubisoft Montreal has decided the Assassin's Creed HUD design was just dragged across to this game which is a bit unfortunate. Still, all round great game. Well worth picking up if you want a lengthy game with lots of variety.
patrick_bateman
Tue 8th Jan 2013
This game is fantastic. If i had played it before the voting then it might have been my game of the year.
Craigimt
Sat 29th Dec 2012
Yeah, I only played it online though.
gooner4life_uk
Sat 29th Dec 2012
Craigimt
It's a separate story. I think it's set 6 months before the campaign.
Cool cheers, can it be done locally?
Craigimt
Sat 29th Dec 2012
It's a separate story. I think it's set 6 months before the campaign.
gooner4life_uk
Sat 29th Dec 2012
How does co-op work? Is it the campaign or side missions? Think this is the weakest of the crimbo games I got to be honest!
Mr C
Fri 28th Dec 2012
As already mentioned i'm really enjoying the coop on this. One really annoying thing though if you play with randoms it doesn't appear to let you choose which map to play on. Keeps putting me into a lobby on maps I've already done. Apaprt,from that its great fun with quite an inventive upgrade system too
DragonBugg
Fri 28th Dec 2012
I do enjoy our talks!
DragonBugg
Fri 28th Dec 2012
See, I think they're only forgettable because they don't get any airtime! If Vaas had a bigger part I would've loved that, but no one character gets a big enough part to show any real importance to plot. It's sad, because I think the characters are good, just underused. Also, I'm really surprised that I haven't been able to find a mod that resets the outposts...
NighteyesUK
Thu 27th Dec 2012
Agree with all that, DB. Though, I wouldn't say Vaas is a truly great character, he's just the most memorable amongst a bunch of forgettable characters. And yeah now that all outposts are clear, I'm done with the game; sod finishing the story.
DragonBugg
Thu 27th Dec 2012
Vaas is by far the best character in this. All the characters are well acted, but Vaas' is genuinely good. He's menacing for a villain because he's seemingly crazy, literally. I love this game. I'm playing it on PC with the HUD turned completely off (mod) and on the hardest difficulty. I have a feeling that mods will drive this game on PC much more for me than anything console could provide. I'm slowly swaying more and more to PC gaming, especially with all these awesome F2P games. Anyway, I love this game, but it gets boring after you take out all the outposts and get all your gear upgraded from hunting. There needs to be a "reset outposts" option. Like "oh, no, a sudden takeover by remnant pirates arriving overnight," or some bullshit, I don't care. I just want to shoot/stab more people silently. I'm getting bored of gunning down civilians with an AK.
Danger Moss
Wed 26th Dec 2012
hallben
Pretty sure there isn't anything. Just some very long credits.
I've been told you don't get the end of game achievement if you skip them.
NighteyesUK
Lol. The lost expedition unlock is a tie-in with the Assassin's Creed universe: Abstergo logos and talk of pieces of Eden. Fuck off Ubisoft. The AC games may well be great, but the overarching story is dogshit. You haven't had a really great story/plot in your games since the original Splinter Cell days.
They're also just a bit of fun and have no bearing on the game overall. But don't let that get in the way of your wild ranting. :)
NighteyesUK
Wed 26th Dec 2012
Taking out outposts never gets old, but the story is indeed silly bullshit. Also, apparently there are plenty of great characters in this, but I'm yet to come across any with the exception of maybe Vaas.
StealthySteveo
Wed 26th Dec 2012
Its fun, but im getting a bit bored on Chapter 8 now..... some of the missions and plain stoopid too
DragonBugg
Wed 26th Dec 2012
Christ, we get it. Not sure what you mean by the difficulty spikes, since I had none, but I personally found this game to be genuinely fun. Regardless of plot and everything, just fun to play. Never once got angry at it.
NighteyesUK
Tue 25th Dec 2012
And now the game has descended into utter shite. Vaas spoilers: After suffering a few silly difficulty spikes, I then get to a dream/drugged up fight with Vaas, armed with a shitty SMG pea-shooter that runs out of ammo stupidly quickly. Game of the year?? FUCK OFF!! If the main plot was good, with the main missions also good, then maybe, but ...just fuck off.
Mr C
Mon 24th Dec 2012
The co-op on this is a hell of a lot of fun. Was playing as calum last night and was absolutely pissing myself laughing at some of the things he was saying
NighteyesUK
Mon 24th Dec 2012
Lol. The lost expedition unlock is a tie-in with the Assassin's Creed universe: Abstergo logos and talk of pieces of Eden. Fuck off Ubisoft. The AC games may well be great, but the overarching story is dogshit. You haven't had a really great story/plot in your games since the original Splinter Cell days.
Noir
Mon 24th Dec 2012
hallben
Pretty sure there isn't anything. Just some very long credits.
Sounds like an Ubi game to me.
NighteyesUK
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Okay, I'll say fair enough. I can see now why people are rating this as their game of the year. It's not mine, but this is definitely an excellent game. In fact, if the story was less ridiculous, and the story missions more interesting, then it might well have nicked it.
hallben
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Pretty sure there isn't anything. Just some very long credits.
StealthySteveo
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Maybe you should have paid attention then....
hallben
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Danger Moss
Oh by the way, for all you guys currently playing do not skip the end credits. :)
Why, I dont remember anything.
Danger Moss
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Oh by the way, for all you guys currently playing do not skip the end credits. :)
Danger Moss
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
NighteyesUK
The tigers are really pissing me off now. If I shoot one in the head with a sniper rifle, it should die. But no, it just rocks up with a trollface all 'Problem, Jason?' :roll:
If a Tiger is far enough away you need a sniper rifle to shoot it, then don't fucking shoot it! :lol: Grenade launcher or RPGs soon dispatch them otherwise. Also you can craft syringes that stop predators attacking you.
Noir
How long's the game roughly? Far Cry 2 was a good 25-30 hours iirc?
The main story is about 10 hours. I had clocked 50+ hours by the end my playthrough though.
Noir
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
How long's the game roughly? Far Cry 2 was a good 25-30 hours iirc?
StealthySteveo
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Annoys me too that Night :(
NighteyesUK
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
The first hour is also shit. It only gets really good when you get better weapons and abilities. I'm loving the game now, but only because taking out pirate strongholds and exploring the island (with an ever increasing sense of danger) is so much fun; the story is silly bullshit, and it's a shame I have to keep going back to it to unlock more abilities. The tigers are really pissing me off now. If I shoot one in the head with a sniper rifle, it should die. But no, it just rocks up with a trollface all 'Problem, Jason?' :roll:
Danger Moss
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Well essentially the first hour is a tutorial.
Phlashman
Sun 23rd Dec 2012
Just put my first hour in to this, still feels like I'm doing the tutorial.
Danger Moss
Sat 22nd Dec 2012
NighteyesUK
:lol: I think this has got its hooks into me now. I'm pretty much ignoring the main story, and instead concentrating on the radio towers and skinning animals for better gear. Bullet sponge tigers can fuck off though. That's a really shit design choice.
Of the 50+ hours I put in on this game I would say 40 of that was spent just wandering around the islands exploring doing all the outposts, activating radio towers and hunting to get better gear. The whole random nature of the game world is what made it so enjoyable for me. I also found hunting for the collectibles pretty enjoyable. Particularly the WWII letters. I'd highly recommend unlocking all 4 weapon slots and some ammo pouches before taking on too many outposts etc. always carry plenty green herbs and medical syringes as well. Yeah tigers, leopards and bears are a bitch. They aint RPG sponges though. :twisted:
NighteyesUK
Heh, the sign of a good game? Christ, I'm tired all of a sudden, what time is it?... Ah shit! Thanks for the info, fellas. I've basically been ignoring the 'warrior's path' But I feel old need to continue it now to unlock more skills (like that knife throwing one). Slowly getting the hang of the bow too.
There does come a point where you can't unlock anymore of the skill tree if you don't progress the story. If that happens then obviously do some of the story. The bow is easily the best weapon in the game. Wait till you get explosive and fire arrows! :D
gooner4life_uk
Sat 22nd Dec 2012
The wife grabbed me this, Hitman Absolution & Halo 4 for Christmas, as I had the Wii U early she knew i'd want something to gaming related to open up! Quite excited to play all 3 of them now!
NighteyesUK
Sat 22nd Dec 2012
Heh, the sign of a good game? Christ, I'm tired all of a sudden, what time is it?... Ah shit! Thanks for the info, fellas. I've basically been ignoring the 'warrior's path' But I feel old need to continue it now to unlock more skills (like that knife throwing one). Slowly getting the hang of the bow too.
NighteyesUK
Fri 21st Dec 2012
:lol: I think this has got its hooks into me now. I'm pretty much ignoring the main story, and instead concentrating on the radio towers and skinning animals for better gear. Bullet sponge tigers can fuck off though. That's a really shit design choice.
Noir
Fri 21st Dec 2012
NighteyesUK
I I felt like Sniper Wolf from MGS; )
Mmmm, I've always wondered what she felt like. Less furry than you in my head though.:/
NighteyesUK
Fri 21st Dec 2012
I'm enjoying it more now. I just did the Medusa mission, and when the reinforcements came I did a runner off the boat and into the cliffs with the grass verges to hide. I picked them off one by one with my SVD, running to a different spot after every shot. I felt like Sniper Wolf from MGS; was pretty good I have to say. :)
Danger Moss
Fri 21st Dec 2012
NighteyesUK
Does that tutorial happen at the first hideout you encounter? I turned the game off just as I started that mission as Herb at pulled up for us to go to the cinema. Perhaps when I loaded it thought I'd already seen the tutorial? The first is saw of that tutorial was after failing that mission a couple of times.
Yep it does. You couldn't have missed a more important tutorial. :lol:
NighteyesUK
Fri 21st Dec 2012
Does that tutorial happen at the first hideout you encounter? I turned the game off just as I started that mission as Herb at pulled up for us to go to the cinema. Perhaps when I loaded it thought I'd already seen the tutorial? The first is saw of that tutorial was after failing that mission a couple of times.
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Xbox One – Now that the dust has settled

We’ve seen the reveal, and we’ve seen the memes, the outrage, the hope, and the hilarity.  But what does it all mean for the actual gamers who, you know, just want to play games?  Let’s take a closer look at the aftermath of Microsoft’s unveiling of the Xbox One, and perhaps glean some insight into the experience gamers can expect from Microsoft’s new flagship machine.

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Xbox One: One FAQ To Rule Them All

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Some confusion has arisen over a few of the Xbox One’s features and issues. So Microsoft have posted a FAQ in the hopes of addressing the approximately 10 billion confused and annoyed gamers on twitter. Clarification regarding the trade in ability of games is conspicuous with its absence, they do a fantastic job of not actually saying anything with the sentence dedicated to it. See bellow.

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Xbox One: It’s here and its a Beast!

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So it’s happened, Microsoft have unveiled it’s latest piece of under the TV hardware and its called the Xbox One. I am reluctant to call it a games console for a few reasons, and that shouldn’t be something that either Microsoft or gamers should be ashamed of because this thing looks like it might be awesome! 

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Born2beSlicker
Sat 25th May 2013
theadmusker
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Xbox was dead last in terms of profits, Microsoft never made a penny. I can't think of when the most powerful came last in sales though. I could be wrong, I'll need to check.
gooner4life_uk
Sat 25th May 2013
So far 2 consoles have had "Special Agreements" with EA and they haven't gone so well either 3DO and Wii U :lol: the Xbox One is going to be a massive flop.
theadmusker
Sat 25th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Janus
Sat 25th May 2013
Been reading about cloud and how it'll support processing "background" stuff (like fog effects) to give the Xbox One the power to run next gen games. It does worry me, because what if my internet connection drops out? It certainly seems like a calculated risk. Sony just seem to be looking for pure power. Generally fits to how both companies generally work.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
You have to remember last time round. Sony were a year late Very Expensive. Didn't quite sell out, or at least was more available at launch making it look kinda bad. Their online service was in a shit state You couldn't even voice chat in alot of games. Things are far more even this time round. It will really come down to E3 when they take the gloves off. Sonys first showing was a little flat but Microsofts seems misguided and forgetful of it's audience. Once you fail to make a good first impression you have to work double hard to get back. 2 weeks....
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah, the PS4 definitely has the edge in terms of power. Even if the GDDR5 vs DDR3 issue is not actually an issue due to the eSRAM compensating for the otherwise lower memory bandwidth, the PS4's GPU still has 50% more cores / compute units (1152 cores / 18 CUs compared to the Xbox One's 768 cores / 12 CUs). Still, the Xbox One does also have the potential for "cloud processing", plus we know from previous generations it's not always about "power" anyway. And even if the PS4 is more powerful, the Xbox One itself is still pretty fucking powerful itself, and will still be able to run some awesome games. Anyway. I'm sure I'll eventually get both, just like this past generation. E3 should be great, and I'm really looking forward to the Eurogamer Expo.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
So Sony did well and really went for the faster hardware. IT's quite a difference too, not something you can write off as being marginal. The only thing they have to worry about is the developers taking advantage of it.
Noir
Fri 24th May 2013
Great links Tez - thanks!
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
Nice one Tez. Gonna get a cuppa and read this.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Similar thing, from ExtremeTech: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15646 ... d-analyzed
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
AnandTech on the Xbox One's hardware, along with a comparison with the PS4's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox ... ystation-4
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Renamed the thread to the Xbox One thread. I've split off the discussion re: used games to another thread as that seems to be a debate in itself.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah there's a lot of stuff what needs answers. Ebay sales sound pretty much dead, but there's a few suggestions there'll be some sort of user to user marketplace through XBL for that sort of thing. As for Fifa in 7 years time or whenever then shutdown the service, well first it won't be 7 years it'll be more like 15-20 probably if at all and they'll probably just send a patch out taking all the license stuff off unlocking it forever.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Got it. Will be interesting if you want to sell on eBay and can only get £5-15 at a activation fee of £35-25 for a game you paid £50 for. Another thing, if I buy FIFA14 in 7 years time, can we expect the activation to be line with the age of the game. Guess we will just have to wait for official figures and news.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Yup. I doubt it will be £35 like the article suggests. However, the cut the retailer gets might be as little as 10 per cent. It'll serve them right for being so greedy.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Brocktas
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Brocktas
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137
Well I'm confused, so if you buy it preowned from Game, you don't have to pay the activation fee? Because who's going to buy it for £30, get home and pay another £35.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
"Content" doesn't necessarily mean it will let you connect your Sky box, though, so gooner's claim can easily still be correct. This "content" deal may just be along the lines of a Sky Go type thing again like for the 360.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
OH SNAP!
Damn right. Told you they would be working with Sky. :wink:
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
OH SNAP!
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
I think it's not a move to destroy used games, but a move to control them. There was an interesting point I read about the viral marketing potential of this method too. In that if you take your game around a friends house, sign in to your account and play it, then leave, your friend is left there with a full version of the game just sitting on his hard drive with a big juicy buy now button on it. Now having had a fun time play that game with his friend, is that person going to go online and order a disc to arrive in a few days, or pop out to the shop to buy a disc? Or will he just click buy? What if that version is also cheaper because, no disc, no retailer taking a cut? What if there's some sort of reward for the guy who bought his game around to his friends house in the form of DLC, Achievements or credit? Personally I still think this is all relatively moot anyway. As going forward F2P and other business models will make it kind of pointless. Games are going to be more online, updated with new content more often, less games are going to be the type that you don't just play once and put down/sell.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137 In all honesty, that sounds fair enough. Tough shit to retailers. I don't know why gamers are rising up to protect them. I certainly have no love lost for them... I mean, these are the guys who would sell you a new copy of a game for £39.99, then so long as you traded it back in in the first week, buy it off you for £20 before putting it back on sale for £37.99 – just £2 less than a new title. And they're doing gamers a favour? A second hand title should be sold for no more than £10 than the retailer bought it in for; not the greedy and cuntish margins many of them were asking for. Put another way? They brought this upon themselves.
Brocktas
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games'
It's increasingly becoming apparent the next generation will see both Microsoft and Sony shift towards you buying a licence to play the game, rather than owning the game itself. There's a great analysis piece by Michael French – the editor in chief of MCV – about how this might work: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/analysis ... es/0116059
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
DogEyedBoy
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
:lol:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Careful what you say, in Janus's 'hood they chop peoples head off on a regular basis for lesser crimes...
Born2beSlicker
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
DogEyedBoy
Thu 23rd May 2013
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
:lol: at the Janus comment.
Noir
Thu 23rd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Great article that I totally agree with. http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbo ... oft-wants/
Phlashman
Thu 23rd May 2013
It certainly didn't look as impressive as BF4. I'm guessing they're still shooting for 60FPS though.
Lostcauz
Thu 23rd May 2013
Call of duty: ghosts
"When we’re talking about a new engine we’re talking about upgrading significant systems within in that engine. We’re not talking about throwing it all away and saying we’re starting from the ground up" "impossible to develop a new engine from the ground up in a two year cycle". "What we do is we say, ‘okay what are the things that are significant and that we would say that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality?" "Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright, then I think that warrants that we’ve got a new engine on our hands"
Probably won't bother with it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Thats brilliant, made me laugh.
Danger Moss
Thu 23rd May 2013
:lolno:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Brilliant :lol:
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
:lol:
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
Moss
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Its not clear, it says accessories. That could just mean headsets, chat pads and the like. Anyway, you won't need a wheel for Forza 5. You'll have Kinect!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Danger Moss
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
UrbanWolf UK
"In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and [u:29szqu1c]accessories[/u:29szqu1c] will work with the new console."
To me that says if it wasn't made specifically for Xbox One then it won't work.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Moss
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
Waggo
Wed 22nd May 2013
Good article Nighteyes. Especially like the point about Kinnect coming as standard which I had not really thought about. Kinnect does have some cool features that with a 100% userbase will become integeral to games, as they are developed as opposed to the optional gimmicks we currently get bolted onto all but the dedicated Kinnect games. 8)
patrick_bateman
Wed 22nd May 2013
Great article nighteyes!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
They bigged up Forza 5 last night, but what they didn't tell you is that your Fanatec steering wheel that you spent hundreds of pounds on, and even has a Forza logo on it, won't actually work with the machine.
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
Now while Sony may well do the same, they didn't for the PS3 (the old PS2 ones work just fine on it). Of course, MS may well work with Fanatec to ensure the current wheel is compatible. But can you really see that happening? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news ... erals.html
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
That's the thing, they really should have shown shit like that. Honestly, for me that show yesterday was a horrendous car-crash. I've just looked at everything we now know and drawn some conclusions. I left out "the cloud" because I don't know enough about the tech and how it all works.
Phlashman
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
gooner4life_uk
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
HDCP won't be a problem, the encode/decode licenses are managed by Intel (as it's an Intel Technology) Microsoft only have to deal with Intel for the ability to do HDMI in and decrypt HDCP. Now I've read/watch/listened to all the interviewss since the event with MS tech people. It looks like HDMI-CEC is preferred, ethernet/wifi is plan B and there's the IR blaster as a last resort. Though just a pass though would be great IMO. I've not really got a problem with my Sky Remote, it's the amount of time and remotes in switch between one and the other and not having any level of multi-tasking going on (like having a game match making whilst I watch TV, or getting notification of your turn during a turn based game). I still think MS and Sky will sort something out.
Oh ok - :lol:
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Expansion Pack 128

Welcome to the Expansion Pack, the Britxbox podcast. Released every second Thursday, we banter on Xbox news, what’s hot within the BXB community, and the games we’ve been playing: from the latest releases, demos and XBLA games, to bargain bin oldies. With Mark “Born2beSlicker” Lawson, Ben “Hallben” Hall, Richard “Colonel Red” Worrall and special guest Ashley “Phlashman” Allen. This week we discuss:

  • #XboxReveal
  • The name
  • Entertainment vs Games
  • Kinect 2
  • Xbox Live
  • Release plans
  • 5 Billion transistors

As always, feel free to post your comments or questions you have for the crew in the forums, and we’ll maybe read your questions on air. Also don’t forget to rate us on iTunes and follow us on Twitter or @Born2beSlicker.

 

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Born2beSlicker
Tue 21st May 2013
Ah! Growing pains of the new site! The podcast can be found here http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/podcast/BXB128.mp3 Whilst we fix the front page!
Born2beSlicker
Tue 21st May 2013
Fixed!
Craigimt
Tue 21st May 2013
Wow, that's a fast turn around. I'll listen to this tomorrow on the bus.
Born2beSlicker
Tue 21st May 2013
We hammered it out quickly, a special emergency podcast. Normal service will resume in 2 weeks with Thursday being the normal release day.
patrick_bateman
Tue 21st May 2013
Can't seem to download it to my tablet. Only listen directly.
Danger Moss
Tue 21st May 2013
No sign of this on i tunes.
Phlashman
Tue 21st May 2013
It's in the iTunes feed, it'll be there soon.
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New Xbox Parts Supply Chain Ramping Up

This isn’t really a surprise but parts for the Next Xbox (whatever it might end up being called) are being shipped from suppliers to manufacturer as they gear up for the ramp up of production for the expected Q4 release.

For all the tech heads out there Digitimes are reporting the following details:

Lite-On Technology and Delta Electronics are working on the PSY,  Lite-On IT are building the optical disc drive (ODD), Asia Optical and Newmax are supplying sensing lens and Foxlink is on connectors… Bored yet?

Of course the controversial Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry) are doing the actual construction of the final box. They are arguably best known for labour disputes and alleged poor treatment of workers, oh and making all the Apple stuff.

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Born2beSlicker
Sat 25th May 2013
theadmusker
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Xbox was dead last in terms of profits, Microsoft never made a penny. I can't think of when the most powerful came last in sales though. I could be wrong, I'll need to check.
gooner4life_uk
Sat 25th May 2013
So far 2 consoles have had "Special Agreements" with EA and they haven't gone so well either 3DO and Wii U :lol: the Xbox One is going to be a massive flop.
theadmusker
Sat 25th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Janus
Sat 25th May 2013
Been reading about cloud and how it'll support processing "background" stuff (like fog effects) to give the Xbox One the power to run next gen games. It does worry me, because what if my internet connection drops out? It certainly seems like a calculated risk. Sony just seem to be looking for pure power. Generally fits to how both companies generally work.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
You have to remember last time round. Sony were a year late Very Expensive. Didn't quite sell out, or at least was more available at launch making it look kinda bad. Their online service was in a shit state You couldn't even voice chat in alot of games. Things are far more even this time round. It will really come down to E3 when they take the gloves off. Sonys first showing was a little flat but Microsofts seems misguided and forgetful of it's audience. Once you fail to make a good first impression you have to work double hard to get back. 2 weeks....
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah, the PS4 definitely has the edge in terms of power. Even if the GDDR5 vs DDR3 issue is not actually an issue due to the eSRAM compensating for the otherwise lower memory bandwidth, the PS4's GPU still has 50% more cores / compute units (1152 cores / 18 CUs compared to the Xbox One's 768 cores / 12 CUs). Still, the Xbox One does also have the potential for "cloud processing", plus we know from previous generations it's not always about "power" anyway. And even if the PS4 is more powerful, the Xbox One itself is still pretty fucking powerful itself, and will still be able to run some awesome games. Anyway. I'm sure I'll eventually get both, just like this past generation. E3 should be great, and I'm really looking forward to the Eurogamer Expo.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
So Sony did well and really went for the faster hardware. IT's quite a difference too, not something you can write off as being marginal. The only thing they have to worry about is the developers taking advantage of it.
Noir
Fri 24th May 2013
Great links Tez - thanks!
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
Nice one Tez. Gonna get a cuppa and read this.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Similar thing, from ExtremeTech: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15646 ... d-analyzed
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
AnandTech on the Xbox One's hardware, along with a comparison with the PS4's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox ... ystation-4
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Renamed the thread to the Xbox One thread. I've split off the discussion re: used games to another thread as that seems to be a debate in itself.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah there's a lot of stuff what needs answers. Ebay sales sound pretty much dead, but there's a few suggestions there'll be some sort of user to user marketplace through XBL for that sort of thing. As for Fifa in 7 years time or whenever then shutdown the service, well first it won't be 7 years it'll be more like 15-20 probably if at all and they'll probably just send a patch out taking all the license stuff off unlocking it forever.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Got it. Will be interesting if you want to sell on eBay and can only get £5-15 at a activation fee of £35-25 for a game you paid £50 for. Another thing, if I buy FIFA14 in 7 years time, can we expect the activation to be line with the age of the game. Guess we will just have to wait for official figures and news.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Yup. I doubt it will be £35 like the article suggests. However, the cut the retailer gets might be as little as 10 per cent. It'll serve them right for being so greedy.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Brocktas
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Brocktas
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137
Well I'm confused, so if you buy it preowned from Game, you don't have to pay the activation fee? Because who's going to buy it for £30, get home and pay another £35.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
"Content" doesn't necessarily mean it will let you connect your Sky box, though, so gooner's claim can easily still be correct. This "content" deal may just be along the lines of a Sky Go type thing again like for the 360.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
OH SNAP!
Damn right. Told you they would be working with Sky. :wink:
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
OH SNAP!
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
I think it's not a move to destroy used games, but a move to control them. There was an interesting point I read about the viral marketing potential of this method too. In that if you take your game around a friends house, sign in to your account and play it, then leave, your friend is left there with a full version of the game just sitting on his hard drive with a big juicy buy now button on it. Now having had a fun time play that game with his friend, is that person going to go online and order a disc to arrive in a few days, or pop out to the shop to buy a disc? Or will he just click buy? What if that version is also cheaper because, no disc, no retailer taking a cut? What if there's some sort of reward for the guy who bought his game around to his friends house in the form of DLC, Achievements or credit? Personally I still think this is all relatively moot anyway. As going forward F2P and other business models will make it kind of pointless. Games are going to be more online, updated with new content more often, less games are going to be the type that you don't just play once and put down/sell.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137 In all honesty, that sounds fair enough. Tough shit to retailers. I don't know why gamers are rising up to protect them. I certainly have no love lost for them... I mean, these are the guys who would sell you a new copy of a game for £39.99, then so long as you traded it back in in the first week, buy it off you for £20 before putting it back on sale for £37.99 – just £2 less than a new title. And they're doing gamers a favour? A second hand title should be sold for no more than £10 than the retailer bought it in for; not the greedy and cuntish margins many of them were asking for. Put another way? They brought this upon themselves.
Brocktas
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games'
It's increasingly becoming apparent the next generation will see both Microsoft and Sony shift towards you buying a licence to play the game, rather than owning the game itself. There's a great analysis piece by Michael French – the editor in chief of MCV – about how this might work: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/analysis ... es/0116059
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
DogEyedBoy
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
:lol:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Careful what you say, in Janus's 'hood they chop peoples head off on a regular basis for lesser crimes...
Born2beSlicker
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
DogEyedBoy
Thu 23rd May 2013
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
:lol: at the Janus comment.
Noir
Thu 23rd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Great article that I totally agree with. http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbo ... oft-wants/
Phlashman
Thu 23rd May 2013
It certainly didn't look as impressive as BF4. I'm guessing they're still shooting for 60FPS though.
Lostcauz
Thu 23rd May 2013
Call of duty: ghosts
"When we’re talking about a new engine we’re talking about upgrading significant systems within in that engine. We’re not talking about throwing it all away and saying we’re starting from the ground up" "impossible to develop a new engine from the ground up in a two year cycle". "What we do is we say, ‘okay what are the things that are significant and that we would say that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality?" "Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright, then I think that warrants that we’ve got a new engine on our hands"
Probably won't bother with it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Thats brilliant, made me laugh.
Danger Moss
Thu 23rd May 2013
:lolno:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Brilliant :lol:
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
:lol:
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
Moss
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Its not clear, it says accessories. That could just mean headsets, chat pads and the like. Anyway, you won't need a wheel for Forza 5. You'll have Kinect!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Danger Moss
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
UrbanWolf UK
"In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and [u:29szqu1c]accessories[/u:29szqu1c] will work with the new console."
To me that says if it wasn't made specifically for Xbox One then it won't work.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Moss
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
Waggo
Wed 22nd May 2013
Good article Nighteyes. Especially like the point about Kinnect coming as standard which I had not really thought about. Kinnect does have some cool features that with a 100% userbase will become integeral to games, as they are developed as opposed to the optional gimmicks we currently get bolted onto all but the dedicated Kinnect games. 8)
patrick_bateman
Wed 22nd May 2013
Great article nighteyes!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
They bigged up Forza 5 last night, but what they didn't tell you is that your Fanatec steering wheel that you spent hundreds of pounds on, and even has a Forza logo on it, won't actually work with the machine.
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
Now while Sony may well do the same, they didn't for the PS3 (the old PS2 ones work just fine on it). Of course, MS may well work with Fanatec to ensure the current wheel is compatible. But can you really see that happening? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news ... erals.html
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
That's the thing, they really should have shown shit like that. Honestly, for me that show yesterday was a horrendous car-crash. I've just looked at everything we now know and drawn some conclusions. I left out "the cloud" because I don't know enough about the tech and how it all works.
Phlashman
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
gooner4life_uk
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
HDCP won't be a problem, the encode/decode licenses are managed by Intel (as it's an Intel Technology) Microsoft only have to deal with Intel for the ability to do HDMI in and decrypt HDCP. Now I've read/watch/listened to all the interviewss since the event with MS tech people. It looks like HDMI-CEC is preferred, ethernet/wifi is plan B and there's the IR blaster as a last resort. Though just a pass though would be great IMO. I've not really got a problem with my Sky Remote, it's the amount of time and remotes in switch between one and the other and not having any level of multi-tasking going on (like having a game match making whilst I watch TV, or getting notification of your turn during a turn based game). I still think MS and Sky will sort something out.
Oh ok - :lol:
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Batman: Arkham Origins Extended Trailer

Does exactly what it says on the tin.

I shall admit I am not so sure about this, what with the change in developers and voice actors, but it sure does make a pretty trailer.

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Noir
Sat 4th May 2013
Arkham City might be one of my fave games ever. I hope this studio doesn't try to mess with the combat though as I think it's great as it is. I'd be quite happy with the same mechanics but in this new era.
PreachedMONKEY
Thu 16th May 2013
This got uploaded today. Don't get your hopes up, it's CGI. But a full trailer is coming on the 20th. Same day Microsoft announce the next Xbox.
Although nextgen platforms haven't been confirmed my guess for the announcement is a timed exclusive for the next console or some kind of backwards compatibility for the next console. The reason for my backwards compatible guess is because Batman Arkham Origins is still only running on the current Unreal engine, not the next gen one, so their isn't really any point in releasing the game on next gen hardware because you'll get no advantage from running it whatsoever. Just an added cost to production. But emulation will be something Microsoft provide, not the devs. And it seems daft to announce a trailer for a new game the day MS reveal their new console. They'll be completely overshadowed.
Noir
Thu 16th May 2013
This one is coming to Wii U too I think still?
MoBiUGeArSkIn
Thu 16th May 2013
Yep. This new studio cut their teeth on Wii U also.
MoBiUGeArSkIn
Tue 21st May 2013
[u:3f28k0wg]Read[/u:3f28k0wg] that. Sounds good! Also... That trailer contained probably the best Batman fight ever committed to... Well... Footage.
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Where to watch the #XboxReveal

On Tuesday 21st of May at 6pm (BST), Microsoft is set to announce the first of a two part reveal of the next generation of Xbox.

With the world buzzing and websites attempting last minute link baits to generate hype, the industry is excited to see what Microsoft has on offer.

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Born2beSlicker
Sat 25th May 2013
theadmusker
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Xbox was dead last in terms of profits, Microsoft never made a penny. I can't think of when the most powerful came last in sales though. I could be wrong, I'll need to check.
gooner4life_uk
Sat 25th May 2013
So far 2 consoles have had "Special Agreements" with EA and they haven't gone so well either 3DO and Wii U :lol: the Xbox One is going to be a massive flop.
theadmusker
Sat 25th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
That is a good point. Is it also accurate to state that the most powerful machine has never come last in a generation (in terms of sales/profit)?
Janus
Sat 25th May 2013
Been reading about cloud and how it'll support processing "background" stuff (like fog effects) to give the Xbox One the power to run next gen games. It does worry me, because what if my internet connection drops out? It certainly seems like a calculated risk. Sony just seem to be looking for pure power. Generally fits to how both companies generally work.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
You have to remember last time round. Sony were a year late Very Expensive. Didn't quite sell out, or at least was more available at launch making it look kinda bad. Their online service was in a shit state You couldn't even voice chat in alot of games. Things are far more even this time round. It will really come down to E3 when they take the gloves off. Sonys first showing was a little flat but Microsofts seems misguided and forgetful of it's audience. Once you fail to make a good first impression you have to work double hard to get back. 2 weeks....
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
That's the thing, the most powerful machine has never-ever won a generation. I look forward to eventually owning both for their different experiences.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah, the PS4 definitely has the edge in terms of power. Even if the GDDR5 vs DDR3 issue is not actually an issue due to the eSRAM compensating for the otherwise lower memory bandwidth, the PS4's GPU still has 50% more cores / compute units (1152 cores / 18 CUs compared to the Xbox One's 768 cores / 12 CUs). Still, the Xbox One does also have the potential for "cloud processing", plus we know from previous generations it's not always about "power" anyway. And even if the PS4 is more powerful, the Xbox One itself is still pretty fucking powerful itself, and will still be able to run some awesome games. Anyway. I'm sure I'll eventually get both, just like this past generation. E3 should be great, and I'm really looking forward to the Eurogamer Expo.
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
So Sony did well and really went for the faster hardware. IT's quite a difference too, not something you can write off as being marginal. The only thing they have to worry about is the developers taking advantage of it.
Noir
Fri 24th May 2013
Great links Tez - thanks!
Harry
Fri 24th May 2013
Nice one Tez. Gonna get a cuppa and read this.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Similar thing, from ExtremeTech: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15646 ... d-analyzed
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
AnandTech on the Xbox One's hardware, along with a comparison with the PS4's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox ... ystation-4
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Renamed the thread to the Xbox One thread. I've split off the discussion re: used games to another thread as that seems to be a debate in itself.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Yeah there's a lot of stuff what needs answers. Ebay sales sound pretty much dead, but there's a few suggestions there'll be some sort of user to user marketplace through XBL for that sort of thing. As for Fifa in 7 years time or whenever then shutdown the service, well first it won't be 7 years it'll be more like 15-20 probably if at all and they'll probably just send a patch out taking all the license stuff off unlocking it forever.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Got it. Will be interesting if you want to sell on eBay and can only get £5-15 at a activation fee of £35-25 for a game you paid £50 for. Another thing, if I buy FIFA14 in 7 years time, can we expect the activation to be line with the age of the game. Guess we will just have to wait for official figures and news.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Yup. I doubt it will be £35 like the article suggests. However, the cut the retailer gets might be as little as 10 per cent. It'll serve them right for being so greedy.
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
No basically a when you trade it in there's a system say at GAME that take that license off your profile and restores it to the disk. So when someone new picks it up it works like a new game. Just that during the process of taking the license off your profile and restoring to the disc, MS/the Publisher will take their cut.
Lostcauz
Fri 24th May 2013
Brocktas
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Brocktas
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137
Well I'm confused, so if you buy it preowned from Game, you don't have to pay the activation fee? Because who's going to buy it for £30, get home and pay another £35.
Tezcatlipoca
Fri 24th May 2013
Phlashman
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
"Content" doesn't necessarily mean it will let you connect your Sky box, though, so gooner's claim can easily still be correct. This "content" deal may just be along the lines of a Sky Go type thing again like for the 360.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
OH SNAP!
Damn right. Told you they would be working with Sky. :wink:
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
Born2beSlicker
Fri 24th May 2013
OH SNAP!
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
gooner4life_uk
Harry
....but how will the TV thing work for people outside the US? Does this box have a tuner inside it? if not then I would need to buy a shitty free view box , it's ok for people with Sky I guess. I just don't get it.
It wont work with Sky or Cable boxes in the UK.
Microsoft sign deals with Sky in UK and Canal+ in France for Xbox One Content: http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-on ... in-europe/
Phlashman
Fri 24th May 2013
I think it's not a move to destroy used games, but a move to control them. There was an interesting point I read about the viral marketing potential of this method too. In that if you take your game around a friends house, sign in to your account and play it, then leave, your friend is left there with a full version of the game just sitting on his hard drive with a big juicy buy now button on it. Now having had a fun time play that game with his friend, is that person going to go online and order a disc to arrive in a few days, or pop out to the shop to buy a disc? Or will he just click buy? What if that version is also cheaper because, no disc, no retailer taking a cut? What if there's some sort of reward for the guy who bought his game around to his friends house in the form of DLC, Achievements or credit? Personally I still think this is all relatively moot anyway. As going forward F2P and other business models will make it kind of pointless. Games are going to be more online, updated with new content more often, less games are going to be the type that you don't just play once and put down/sell.
Brocktas
Fri 24th May 2013
Interesting report that if true (and knowing MCV's sources, it probably is) explains how pre-owned will work and why the console has to be able to connect to the internet once a day.
Retailers will be free to charge whatever they wish for pre-owned Xbox One games, but both Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage cut of every sale. Retail sources have told MCV that Microsoft has this week briefed key retail partners on how it intends to take ownership of the pre-owned market. This is how we’ve been told it will all work: A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own. The game is then registered as having been traded-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours. The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest. Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retail’s slice will be as little as ten per cent. That’s a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game – hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed. These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35. When contacted by MCV Microsoft responded with the following statement: “We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail. Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios. Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.”
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishe ... il/0116137 In all honesty, that sounds fair enough. Tough shit to retailers. I don't know why gamers are rising up to protect them. I certainly have no love lost for them... I mean, these are the guys who would sell you a new copy of a game for £39.99, then so long as you traded it back in in the first week, buy it off you for £20 before putting it back on sale for £37.99 – just £2 less than a new title. And they're doing gamers a favour? A second hand title should be sold for no more than £10 than the retailer bought it in for; not the greedy and cuntish margins many of them were asking for. Put another way? They brought this upon themselves.
Brocktas
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games'
It's increasingly becoming apparent the next generation will see both Microsoft and Sony shift towards you buying a licence to play the game, rather than owning the game itself. There's a great analysis piece by Michael French – the editor in chief of MCV – about how this might work: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/analysis ... es/0116059
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
DogEyedBoy
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
:lol:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Careful what you say, in Janus's 'hood they chop peoples head off on a regular basis for lesser crimes...
Born2beSlicker
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
DogEyedBoy
Thu 23rd May 2013
If Janus can afford to play games and still feed his fat wife and ten kids then surely us regular ol' proles can manage it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Noir
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
:lol: at the Janus comment.
Noir
Thu 23rd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
:lol:
Perfect. What a mess. I'm not sure what I'm more excited by right now.... 1. Phil Harrison giving me 'permission to play my games' 2. Janus determining whether I'm rich enough for a gaming hobby The suspension is killing me.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Great article that I totally agree with. http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbo ... oft-wants/
Phlashman
Thu 23rd May 2013
It certainly didn't look as impressive as BF4. I'm guessing they're still shooting for 60FPS though.
Lostcauz
Thu 23rd May 2013
Call of duty: ghosts
"When we’re talking about a new engine we’re talking about upgrading significant systems within in that engine. We’re not talking about throwing it all away and saying we’re starting from the ground up" "impossible to develop a new engine from the ground up in a two year cycle". "What we do is we say, ‘okay what are the things that are significant and that we would say that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality?" "Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright, then I think that warrants that we’ve got a new engine on our hands"
Probably won't bother with it.
patrick_bateman
Thu 23rd May 2013
Thats brilliant, made me laugh.
Danger Moss
Thu 23rd May 2013
:lolno:
Harry
Thu 23rd May 2013
Brilliant :lol:
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
:lol:
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
Moss
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Its not clear, it says accessories. That could just mean headsets, chat pads and the like. Anyway, you won't need a wheel for Forza 5. You'll have Kinect!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Danger Moss
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
UrbanWolf UK
"In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and [u:29szqu1c]accessories[/u:29szqu1c] will work with the new console."
To me that says if it wasn't made specifically for Xbox One then it won't work.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Moss
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
It's pretty clear.
Danger Moss
Wed 22nd May 2013
UrbanWolf UK
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
That article only says old controllers won't work. Doesn't say anything about fight sticks.
Waggo
Wed 22nd May 2013
Good article Nighteyes. Especially like the point about Kinnect coming as standard which I had not really thought about. Kinnect does have some cool features that with a 100% userbase will become integeral to games, as they are developed as opposed to the optional gimmicks we currently get bolted onto all but the dedicated Kinnect games. 8)
patrick_bateman
Wed 22nd May 2013
Great article nighteyes!
UrbanWolf UK
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
They bigged up Forza 5 last night, but what they didn't tell you is that your Fanatec steering wheel that you spent hundreds of pounds on, and even has a Forza logo on it, won't actually work with the machine.
NighteyesUK
In order for Xbox One to deliver robust, meaningful gaming scenarios for all users across all experiences, only Xbox One controllers and accessories will work with the new console.
Now while Sony may well do the same, they didn't for the PS3 (the old PS2 ones work just fine on it). Of course, MS may well work with Fanatec to ensure the current wheel is compatible. But can you really see that happening? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news ... erals.html
Oh man! This just keeps getting better and better, 1st I can't play my XBLA games on the Xbox One, now they're saying I won't be able to use my Madcatz Fight Sticks (costing me the better part of £200) on it as well?! Well done Microsoft, well done :clap: :clap: Fucktards! :x
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
That's the thing, they really should have shown shit like that. Honestly, for me that show yesterday was a horrendous car-crash. I've just looked at everything we now know and drawn some conclusions. I left out "the cloud" because I don't know enough about the tech and how it all works.
Phlashman
Wed 22nd May 2013
NighteyesUK
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
Totally agree with that article. If they'd more of a point of "dedicated servers" during the conference that would of helped. One of the engineers in the GT behind the scenes had a good kinect game thing about winking at the shopkeeper in an in game store and getting a discount.
NighteyesUK
Wed 22nd May 2013
I've written a brief article on what gamers (not TV watchers or Watercooler aficionados) can expect from the Xbox one: http://www3.britxbox.co.uk/blog/2013/05 ... s-settled/
gooner4life_uk
Wed 22nd May 2013
Phlashman
HDCP won't be a problem, the encode/decode licenses are managed by Intel (as it's an Intel Technology) Microsoft only have to deal with Intel for the ability to do HDMI in and decrypt HDCP. Now I've read/watch/listened to all the interviewss since the event with MS tech people. It looks like HDMI-CEC is preferred, ethernet/wifi is plan B and there's the IR blaster as a last resort. Though just a pass though would be great IMO. I've not really got a problem with my Sky Remote, it's the amount of time and remotes in switch between one and the other and not having any level of multi-tasking going on (like having a game match making whilst I watch TV, or getting notification of your turn during a turn based game). I still think MS and Sky will sort something out.
Oh ok - :lol:
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